Author: pancake@flubox <unknown>
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+The current state of my minimalist email solution is quite hacky and incomplete
+but is starting to be functional and usable. I plan to publish the hg repo where
+the source is being developed in a week or two..
+Actually I have a pop3 implementation in 100 LOC and imap4 in 130LOC, for
+smtp i have delegated the task to msmtp (i will write the smtp protocol later),
+and a main shellscript that manages all the rest. this will rewritten to C at
+some point. But actually i want the functionality.
+pop3/imap4 works on plain and ssl connections by using nc and openssl. No
+extra security checks (like IP and certificate changes), but this will be done soon too.
+There is no decent syncronization mechanisms, just basic folder fetching from
+pop3 and imap4. For the attachments Nibble will write a mime packer/unpacker,
+so this will be about 100LOC more.
+At the end I think that the first working version will be about 1000LOC, but
+the code can be easily improved and cleaned up. But ATM i'm priorizing the
+About threads I think the best way is to grep for a subject and sort by date.
+The problem I see in threads is that you loss the timeline and for long threads
+you get just lines (no text) because of the recursively nesting nature of the
+threads. If you want to 'ban' somebody comments, its just another grep filter
+to the list, etc...
+I don't plan to add threading support at the moment, just plain and filtered lists.
+The code of 'dmc' the 'dynamic mail client' that im actually writing is going to
+work only on *nix-based systems (no plans for w32 atm)
+About functionalities I dont want to chop any of them, but I want to keep the
+core as simple as possible, keeping the configuration minimal, and make the
+core actions enought to be extended by user scripts.
+About the frontend..well i would like to write a simple gtk-based GUI, but it
+will relay on the core dmc. So it will be plain simple to write web based interfaces,
+commandline ones, or whatever.
+There's a long way to go, but half of it is already known :)
+> * markus schnalke <firstname.lastname@example.org> [2009-10-18 10:17]:
+>> [2009-10-15 21:47] email@example.com
+>>> Well, I can't tell which view is more useful in mutt -- threaded or
+>>> timeline. Which is proved by the fact that I have changed couple of times
+>>> in the past the default view from one to another, and switched views at
+>>> least once a day anyway. Which proves for me that they are equally useful
+>>> for different tasks: [...]
+>> IMO threads are very useful for mailing lists. (With nmh, I really miss
+>> them there.)
+>> The inbox, in contrast, is best sorted by time, I think.
+> I need both views in both cases. With threads, in general, you can't see
+> the most recent posts overall. Even if you collapse them, all threads don't
+> necessarily fit in one page.
+> Date sort alone hides the structure of a conversation, as long as
+> conversations tend to fork sub-themes, which is often the case with people
+> worth communicating with :o)
+>>> In summary: I would love a less sucking alternative to existing mail
+>>> clients, in nmh style, i.e. a collection of tools to handle different
+>>> aspects of the mail processing and to delegate non-mail tasks to $EDITOR,
+>>> grep, whatever. But there are some features I consider crucial, e.g.
+>>> decent unicode support
+>> Would it be so much work to add it to nmh?
+> I think it is not that big deal. I did it for a Win32 application at work
+> couple of years ago. But still needs time... And I am by far not the god of
+> code anyway.
+>>> IMHO it doesn't make sense to cut things which serve you good tens of times
+>>> every day.
+>> It's not about cutting out stuff, but switching to the Unix style. ;-)
+> If it's good, (it's unix style) XOR (it's illegal, OR immoral OR it makes you